Trust Man You Lose Every Time

I have long ago rejected organized religion. I no longer join myself to any organized denomination of any persuasion be it 501c or not.

Why?

In these last days I view organized religion or organized religious groups as coming under the umbrella of Revelation’s woman riding the beast, “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And on her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:3-6

It does not take too much reasoning to figure out who or what is being referred to, read the whole chapter to gain some insight.

Being that the woman is a symbol of a “church” or organized group of religious folk AND that she is a harlot, and mother of harlots again it does not take too much reasoning to figure out whoever came out of her (their mother) is also defined as harlots.

So we see here a “church” or organized group of people that is corrupt and committing spiritual adultery, fornication against the one true God and those who break off from their mother and form other “churches” or other religious groups of people are also harlots, corrupt as their mother in committing spiritual adultery, fornication against the one true God.

This is why God commands HIS PEOPLE who are joined to these religious groups or “churches” to come out of her and her daughters religious groups or “churches”. “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4

The MOTHER OF HARLOTS and her daughters are ripe for judgment and God is close to lowering the boom on her and her daughters, before he does so he warns all his people who are still mingling with her and her daughters to come out and be separate, touch not the unclean thing. If you don’t heed his warning you be be swept up with her and her daughters in judgment and become collateral damage when his judgment falls on her. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! You are without excuse if you do not heed the warning.

So if you have to come out of organized religion in these last days what do you do for worship and fellowship?

Find like minded brothers and sisters in Christ and fellowship in each others homes or where ever you decide to meet just as they did in the 1st century. There is a possibility that you won’t find like minded brothers and sisters in Christ in your area and have to go it alone but I tell you with the internet you can fellowship with like minded brothers and sisters in Chrsit 24/7 if you need to, there are lots online. Another option is to find a town or city that has a good amount of like minded brothers and sisters in Christ and relocate so you can have physical fellowship. I personally don’t need physical fellowship, online fellowship is just as edifying.

We have to remember that the closer it gets to Messiah’s return the more the heat is going to be turned up against those who follow Christ and scripture alone. We will become “enemies” to organized religion, enemies to the mother and her harlot daughters and will be called all manner of names, heretics, Judaizers, persecuted, brought before courts, thrown into prison for proclaiming “hate” speeches or crimes just because we stand on the scriptures and we DO NOT CALL EVIL GOOD OR GOOD EVIL. For that reason even our own families will turn against us but take heart our Master, our Lord, our King, Messiah tells us, “But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues you shall be beaten: and you shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what you shall speak, neither do you premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak you: for it is not you that speak, but the Holy Ghost. Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And you shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved.” Mark 13:9-13

Endure all that will come against you to the end and you shall be saved….. “You therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that wars entangles himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who has chosen him to be a soldier.” 2 Timothy 2:3-4

We are soldiers in the army of the Lord of Hosts, we go into battle with wickedness every day, every moment of each day….. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take to you the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.” Ephesians 6:12-13

One last thought, do not think that we are going to get out of this battle, this war with our life intact, more than likely most of us engaged in this war will lose our life for our Masters sake, but our reward will come with him in the resurrection.

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, you heavens, and you that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Revelation 12:7-17

Be ready, the Dragon is ramping up his war against us, he is determined to exterminate us and God is going to allow him to overcome us and kill most of us. The Dragon by killing most of us thinks he wins yet we are the ones who win, a martyrs death is the best death a servant of God can attain.

Fear none of those things which you shall suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that you may be tried; and you shall have tribulation ten days: be you faithful to death, and I will give you a crown of life.” Revelation 2:10

Stay the course, run the race to the finish, remain faithful, steadfast do not compromise or falter in the end we all win big time of not only being with our savior who went through torture & took our pentaly of sin on himself & gave his life for us so that we may gain life eternal if we put our faith and trust in him, but also we will be rewarded with blessings unimaginable because we believed even though we did not see, trusted that which we can not verify by our senses, we trust, believe, hope, have faith based on words in a book. We who are drawn know that those words in a book is a lot more than just words in a book, they are spirit & life, those words in that book energizes our spirit and makes us alive, gives us light in the darkness, it is something that only those who has been touched, drawn and captured by God and his Son can realize is truth. “But as it is written, Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9

Cling to Messiah and his Father and the word of truth, the scripture. Do not put your trust in organized religion or man, test everything, be a Berean and keep pressing forward toward the Kingdom……

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Speculation, conjecture, guessing is NOT doctrine

Who in their right mind thinks God needs an army? Who in their right mind thinks God needs angelic help to defend himself?

God is quite capable of defending himself against any foe that is stupid or crazy enough to think they can overpower him, dethrone him and even kill him. They are insane who think they can win a battle against him.

God has an army not because he needs one but because he created all these millions and possibly millions and millions more (it never says exactly how many he created) to give them something to do, to give them meaning for their existence. He does not need protection.

God IS an alien. He is not of this world or even of this universe. He lives in another dimension, the spiritual dimension. He can not come into our physical dimension physically, with all his Power, Glory and Majesty without destroying our physical universe. “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.”

Revelation 20:11 & “YHWH is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of YHWH will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy behavior and godliness, Looking for and hasting to the coming of the day of YHWH, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?” 2 Peter 3:9-12

When he comes his physical presence destroys this universe and everything in it and he has to create a new heaven and new earth that can contain his presence not only spiritually but physically as well, without destroying anything.

All these instances where it says God or YHWH talked face to face is Hebrew idioms meaning YHWH’s spiritual presence not his total physical presence. His spirit or mind is able to project into our dimension and be with us NOT his physical self with all its Power, Glory, Majesty.

Remember he is NOT human, he neither thinks like us nor acts like us…… “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says YHWH. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9

In other words if you think you got him all figured out, guess again.

The only way YHWH can and did interact with us humans is through his Son. All those appearances and talking was through his Son. His Son had and has what we call Power of Attorney with YHWH his Father to act in his Father’s stead in this physical universe. The Son is now our mediator between The Father and us but was also the go-between of the Father and mankind in the Old Testament when the Father dealt with his people and the heathens or Gentiles.

We can not fully figure it out because now we see in a glass darkly and it is not important that we figure it all out. We have the scriptures, that which he has revealed to us, that is all he wants us to know right now, that which is contained in those scriptures.

It is enough knowledge and wisdom to get us fit and ready for his coming governmental Kingdom reign.

We can speculate, conjecture, guess but what we can’t do is try to make doctrine out of our speculation, conjecture or guess work.

Our Opinions Mean Diddly-Squat

Holy Molly, what is with Christians? It does not matter what I say, or anyone else says in regards to Jesus, the Apostles, God or whatever. Our opinions and beliefs mean diddly-squat to God or Christ, IT IS WHAT DOES THE BIBLE OR SCRIPTURES SAY OR TEACH that means anything.

We are fallible human beings with a fallen nature, we were born fallen spiritually. The scripture is plain when it says, “it is not in man’s way to direct his steps.” Jeremiah 10:23, in other words man will screw up.

There are two types of reading scripture, one is exegesis and the other is eisegesis. With exegesis you read scripture as it reads in context with surrounding verses and chapters, with eisegesis you read into the verse what it does not say, you make the verse read as you want it to read NOT as it actually reads.

Was Jesus God and what if we don’t believe he was are we still OK with God?

Jesus never said he was God, get a Red Letter Edition of Bible and read all the red verses in New Testament and not once will any of those verses say he was God. Jesus never said it nor did any of the Apostles.

People infer or read into verses what they want that verse to say. If the verse does not come out and say God the Son, that the Son was God in the flesh, or any other direct statement that Jesus was God than anyone who says the verse is saying Jesus is God is speculating, infering, making the verse say what it does not directly say.

You must honor the Son as you honor the Father, Jesus is the mediator between God and man, Jesus is the way to God, no man comes to the Father but through him, you must have the Son to have the Father, if you do not have the Son you do not have the Father,,,,, On and on it goes showing that God the Father is the supreme one true God, the almighty, and his Son is just as divine as his Father because he came forth from the Father, the Father begot him and therefore he has his Father’s name or nature. Like reproduces like, God the Father’s law of reproduction. Therefore his only begotten Son IS divine BUT he is NOT God the Father.

There are statements to the effect of “God the Father” in scripture BUT there is NOT any statement such as “God the Son” or “God the Holy Spirit”, there ARE phrases “the Son of God”, “the Spirit of God but God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are two phrases that are man made statements, comments, concepts not supported by scripture.

Read your Red Letter Edition of Christ’s words in red, not once will you see that he regarded himself as God, the almighty, the one true God, never.

Mark of The Beast

The mark of the beast is NOT a micro-chip or bio-chip that allows one to buy and sell. That is for business transactions and has nothing to do with WORSHIP.

The mark of the beast on the hand and forehead has everything to do with worship and not physically going to Wal Mart, Target or even Burger King and buying something.

Mark or seal on right hand and forehead is symbolic talk for doing and believing. The hand does what the forehead or mind believes.

God in Revelation seals HIS people in the forehead, in Deuteronomy God tells them the same….

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be in your heart: And you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shalt talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up. And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. And you shalt write them on the posts of your house, and on your gates.” Deuteronomy 6:4-9

Frontlets between your eyes is forehead.

The hand and forehead is symbolic for acting and thinking, doing and believing. It is not a literal thing to put on ones hand and forehead.

If one reads the 3 angels messages in Revelation 14:6-13 it is ALL about WORSHIP, who one worships either the one true God or this beast who is proclaiming himself to be God.

If one is deceived and thinks or believes this beast is God then he receives the beast’s mark in his hand and forehead in that his hand is going to DO what his forehead BELIEVES. Those who fall for the beast’s proclamations and worships him will also act according to the dictates of that beast. In other words whatever the beast commands they WILL DO! It has nothing to do with microchips implanted in ones hand to do business transactions, doing business transactions at Wal Mart, Target or even Burger King IS NOT WORSHIP!!

The buying and selling is the believing and proclaiming the doctrines and commands or dictates of this beast just as Christian’s buy and sell the doctrines and commands of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christian’s believe the doctrines and commands of the gospel (the forehead or mind Buying) and therefore because of their belief in the gospel (Buying) they go out and sell to the world their faith in the gospel’s doctrines and commands.

Our Lord tells us in one of his letters to the 7 churches in Revelation to buy of him gold and silver tried in the fire…. “I counsel you to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that you may be rich; and white raiment, that you may be clothed, and that the shame of your nakedness do not appear; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.” Revelation 3:18

Does any Christian or believer in Christ think they can actually buy gold tried in the fire, white raiment from the Master Jesus Christ? Of course not, he is not even in our physical universe right now so how could they? It is symbolic not literal just as the beast’s buying and selling is symbolic and not literal buying and selling at stores or businesses.

Scribes & Pharisees of Today

“Then Jesus said to them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees”….

“Then understood they how that he commanded them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.” Matthew 16:6,12

“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for you neither go in yourselves, neither suffer you them that are entering to go in.” Matthew 23:13

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you trek sea and land to make one convert, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15

Scribes, Pharisees. Scribes & Pharisees of our day, today, would be the translators or writers of the word the scriptures and the publishers of the translations of our Scribes of today. The Pharisees would be our teachers, our ministers, Pastors.

Here we have our Master warning us to be careful, watchful of what these Scribes & Pharisees of our day are producing when it comes to the word of God just as he warned his disciples. Their doctrine may sound all religious, it may look and sound good, full of piety but elsewhere he tells us their worship is in vain or worthless because they teach and practice the doctrine and commandments of men and not God’s. “This people draws near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” Matthew 15:8-9

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.” Revelation 22:14-15

I want you to notice that last phrase, “whosoever loves and makes a lie”, this is not just about telling lies, no this can be translated if one looks up makes and lie in a lexicon, whosoever loves and makes or does a falsehood. So if one believers we have to sin, we have no choice it’s in our nature, that is making or doing a falsehood, believing a lie because the scriptures proclaim: “Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in the lusts thereof.” Romans 6:12

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?” Romans 6:15-16

Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.” 1 Corinthians 15:34

You have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.” Hebrews 12:4

You see this believing falsehood and acting on that falsehood puts one in the same category of idolaters, murderers, whoremongers that will not inherit or enter the Kingdom of God”….. this concept that it does not matter what one believes as long as they are sincere will get one barred from the Kingdom.

Not every one that says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23

These people were sincere, they did wonderful works “in the name of Jesus”, they cast out demons “in the name of Jesus”, they prophesied “in the name of Jesus”, looks like they were very sincere but they were sincerely wrong and that got them rejected from the Kingdom! They were guilty not because they did wonderful works, casting out demons or prophesing, but because they worked inquity: were lawless, without law: anomia a=without nomia=law.

They believed what their Scribes and Pharisees taught them, they believed the wrong leaven or doctrine, the doctrine of men that says the law is abolish, we are not under law therefore we do not have to obey what has been abolished or we do not have to obey what we are not under. Their Scribes and Pharisees taught error, falsehood in not knowing the scriptures, they did not rightly divide the word of truth and taught these people wrong and these people believed them instead of searching the scriptures to see if these teaching were true.

Our Master rejecting these people is yet future when the time comes for him to judge those who are worthy to enter the Kingdom, enter into life everlasting because they did the will of God, or those who will be cast into outer darkness where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth because they worked iniquity or anomia lawlessness…

So sincerity is not going to cut it, you must believe the doctrine of God not man. “Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marveled, saying, How knows this man letters, having never learned? Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.” John 7:14-17

“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;” Ephesians 4:14

“For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;” 1 Timothy 1:10

“Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. If there come any to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that bids him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 1:9-11

Make sure you are abiding in the doctrine of Christ, if you abide in any other doctrine but that of Christ you will be barred from the Kingdom and cast into outer datkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Not doing your homework, testing those who teach, discerning of the spirit of error vs the spirit of truth is serious business and has serious consequences if you get it wrong.

Eternal Torture??

I was having a dialog with a fellow believer when it turned into a discussion of eternal punishment for sinners in hell. This surprised me in that I personally do not get that concept from scriptures but from worldly philosophers like Dante or Plato.

I do believe those who reject Messiah will be punished, I just don’t believe that that punishment is eternal.

Lets face it, the very word eternal means never ending right? So if it is never ending and Messiah took our punishment then he would have to be still on the cross because our punishment is never ending therefore Messiah taking our punishment is never ending. Eternal is eternal.

So what is the real story here, how can he say at the end of his taking our punishment unto himself, how can he say “it is finished” if our punishment is eternal, never ending?

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23

So what is sin?

“Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.” 1 John 3:4

We don’t need to go to a Preacher or Pastor or a theologian with a PhD in theology to find that answer. The scriptures gives us the answer right there in 1 John 3:4

Sin has wages, transgressing God law has wages, it says those wages is death NOT life. So if you are being tormented eternally in hell that is still life albeit not a pleasant life for sure but even life in a hell is still life. It is clear that the wages of sin or transgressing his law is death.

God gave his people a choice….. “I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your seed may live:” Deuteronomy 30:19

Eternal death is the punishment for rejecting God’s grace, God’s gift of eternal life through his Son.

So where does the punishment come from?

The wages of sin is death, somebody has to pay those wages. God has provided a way that you do not have to pay those wages, his Son freely volunteered to come and take those wages in your stead. He took your punishment onto himself so that you would not have to.

If one rejects what Messiah did for him then that leaves the only other option open to God YOU have to pay the wages. The wages of sin, transgressing his law has been satisfied by his Son Yahshua Messiah, he took our punishment, so if you don’t accept that, if you reject his offer of kinsman redeemer then that leaves you and only you to pay those wages.

Why doesn’t God just kill you and be done with it, no you must suffer for the transgression of his law just as his Son suffered for your transgressing God’s law in your place.

“Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came to him, saying, declare to us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said to them, He that sows the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who has ears to hear, let him hear.” Matthew 13:36-43

Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” Matthew 25:41

The lake of fire was prepared for the devil and his angels it was not prepared for human’s. It was prepared as an everlasting fire to punish the devil and his angels.

Human’s are not immortal, nor do they have an immortal soul that too is a human philosophical concept not supported by the scripture. So if one rejects God’s offer of pardon through faith in his Son then they will have to pay the wages of sin, transgressing his law, themselves by being thrown into the lake of fire. Depending on the wickedness of that individual will depend on how long it takes for him to be consumed by the lake of fire before he dies the eternal death.

“And you yourselves like to men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he comes and knocks, they may open to him immediately. Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he comes shall find watching: verily I say to you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be you therefore ready also: for the Son of man comes at an hour when you think not. Then Peter said to him, Lord, speak you this parable to us, or even to all? And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he comes shall find so doing. Of a truth I say to you, that he will make him ruler over all that he has. But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delays his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looks not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” Luke 12:36-48

Granted this parable is referring to believers but notice what happens to the bad, wicked servant, he is regarded the same as an unbeliever…. “will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers” or he’ll be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of unbelievers and be beaten with many stripes before death over takes him.

When you reason it out, use that brain God gave you to do critical thinking and connect the dots the logical conclusion is the punishment of eternal death is the consequence for rejecting God’s offer of salvation from the lake of fire. Those humans who eventually die in the lake of fire will never, ever, eternally never ever be resurrected again to life. THAT is the eternal punishment, notice it does not say punishments but punishment.

We do the same here on earth in our judicial justice system to those who do heinous crimes that deserve death, we kill them. Execute them, we do torture them for the rest of their life here on earth until they die.

God is no different, after you pay your wages for your sins in the lake of fire, because you rejected his way of pardon, you die, never to be resurrected again period.

As is always the case in my posts you can believe whatever you want to believe. This is my take on it and yes I’ve hear all the verses and still hold to my view, my God is a God of love and mercy but also a God of justice and wrath. His justice and wrath is tempered with is love and mercy, you must pay for your rebellion and rejecting what cost him dearly but he is also merciful in that once you have paid your wages he ends it with death, he is not a God of eternal torture or a God that is a eternal tormentor. You can be sure if you reject his offer of salvation that you will get the exact amount of punishment you deserve before you suffer eternal death, no more no less.

How To Be A Successful Christian?

I was asked recently, “How does one become a successful Christian?”. That to me is nonsense. I know the person who asked me this question, and I know what his attitude and mindset, where he was coming from.

To him a successful plumber was a plumber that was the best in his field, he had a large client base and was the largest plumber in his area AND he made a lot of money.

To him a successful Attorney was one who had a lot of high-end clients, he was the best in his field, was the largest in his area AND he made a lot of money.

You get the drift. This Christian equated success with being the best, having a large following AND making a lot of money.

Yes, sure there are mega-churches, these mega-churches are the best at what they do, have a huge following, big, really big buildings, lots of stage presence, put on mega concerts with big screens, pyrotechnics just as the worldly music system, their Pastor or Shepard probably has one or several popular teaching books in print AND they make a lot of money!

My question to him was, is God impressed with that kind of success? No.

Love, serve and obey God is all God asks of us. He does not care if we write and publish books, he does not care if we found a church that grows into a mega-church, he does not care if we make a lot of money or not.

And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called to him his disciples, and said to them, Verily I say to you, That this poor widow has cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.” Mark 12:41-44

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank you, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes to heaven, but smote on his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalts himself shall be abased; and he that humbles himself shall be exalted.” Luke 18:10-14

So, I answered in the only way I could biblical: Love God with all your mind, serve and obey him and you will be a successful Christian.